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Induction system questions
« on: February 23, 2016, 04:58:00 AM »
From looking through the forum there seems to be a leaning to dual Mikunis over the single Zenith. Are my observations correct?
If so, what would be the recommended size Mikuni and or model number? Also what about a pumper bowl vs. gravity bowl?

I am building/buying a 37HP 1/2VW. Is this suitable Mikuni assembly at Ebay

Ken
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Re: Induction system questions
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2016, 01:24:42 PM »


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Re: Induction system questions
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2016, 01:47:18 PM »
Dan,
Thank you for the direction. The Mikuni's seem to be the way to go I'm just looking to find out now what diameter bore I need to use for the 37 hp engine.

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Re: Induction system questions
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2016, 02:08:25 PM »
Fw: [DEr's read Msg15985] Re: Mikuni Carbs

Steve Kiblinger:
Jun 26, 2013
Occasionally VM-28 roundslides show up on EBay as NOS (New Old Stock)...
 
There is a high time LE that has used TM-28 Flat Slides - the carb float valves had to be replaced at about 100 hours, otherwise all Ok... These carbs are available new in many places - just more expensive... Mikuni brought these carbs to provide better mid range response - doesn't matter much to us...
 
If you look at the Mikuni tuning manual there is a graph in there that calls out HP as PS (German for HP) as the carb sizing scale and can conclude that 24 - 26mm carbs are Ok for our purposes ( I don't know of anyone that has settled on this size and therefore am hopeful there will be feedback)... The VM26-606 is Japanese made and shows up in several vendor catalogs...
 
The bigger carbs are considerably heavier and will be at full power with the slide half open on a single cylinder - the upper half of the slide becomes a (dead zone)... The way the Mikuni is designed this makes tuning a daunting task because the carb ceases to function as described in the tuning manual due to the slide position determining which jets are in the driver seat - the Tuning Manual has a big diagram near the back that spells this out graphically...
 
There are a lot of zinc body carbs on the used market - you don't want them because of the weight...
 
Here's a link to the Mikuni Tuning Manual pdf:

 
Tune for 1300 - 1400 F EGT static RPM...
Power will be low below 1300 F...


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Re: Induction system questions
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2016, 03:16:53 PM »
Great information Dan!

Thank you again,
Ken
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Re: Induction system questions
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2016, 11:53:43 AM »
I am using 28mm on my Eagle...guestimating 37-38 HP works fine!  Leonard had 30mm and they work great also....
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Re: Induction system questions
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2016, 12:02:31 PM »
The BetterHalf Plans states "I use 32mm size carburetors with 40mm spigots. The carbs are mounted on the heads with a rubber flange -- just like motorcycles have used for many years."

 

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