Aileron rib gussets.

[Jlwright]

I may have screwed up. I have all my wing ribs made except for 4. I read somewhere that the gussets are different for the aileron ribs than the others. I don't see that in Leonards information or videos but may have overlooked it. Do I continue and finish the ribs or do I need to make some different gussets. Can someone point me in a direction. I have Irondesigns  drawings and that is where the confusion comes from.
Thanks
Jim

[Steve]

I may have screwed up. I have all my wing ribs made except for 4. I read somewhere that the gussets are different for the aileron ribs than the others. I don't see that in Leonards information or videos but may have overlooked it. Do I continue and finish the ribs or do I need to make some different gussets. Can someone point me in a direction. I have Irondesigns  drawings and that is where the confusion comes from.
Thanks
Jim

From the LE #33 plan set I built all the ribs the same... Guess you should be discussing with Irondesign - are there instructions re: there?

[scottiniowa]

I may have screwed up. I have all my wing ribs made except for 4. I read somewhere that the gussets are different for the aileron ribs than the others. I don't see that in Leonards information or videos but may have overlooked it. Do I continue and finish the ribs or do I need to make some different gussets. Can someone point me in a direction. I have Irondesigns  drawings and that is where the confusion comes from.
Thanks
Jim

Quote from: Steve on Tue May 13 2014 11:17:33 GMT-0500 (CDT)
From the LE #33 plan set I built all the ribs the same... Guess you should be discussing with Irondesign - are there instructions re: there?

Hi builders. I certainly did show that I built the aileron rib- Ribs,  with a replaced vert stick with a K gusset/block arrangement that was different than in the plans. Known as a K Block, with the inside (concave of the K, where the Aileron goes, to be pre made with your router)  This takes almost NO extra time to make and greatly reduces the time to later on cut out your ailerons, add in your cove and move on. This was shown this way to HELP YOU BUILD FASTER and SAVE  YOU TIME on trying to figure out a quick way to  building the ribs in this area.  By adding in the K block we do take out the strait 1/4 x 1/4" rib portions as  you don't need both.  Gussets go over top just like you do with other ribs.   This not the only way of course, but a way that works nicely.  You can see this in the videos that I posted long ago on this very area.  Best of success.  Scott

[Jlwright]

I just wasn't paying attention well enough. I got ahead of myself. At this point I may as well just continue on.

[Jlwright]

Small milestone today. I glued up the last of the wing ribs. I stapled and then removed a little over 4000 of them little suckers. I think I'll build a landing gear next. I need a break from gluing wood.

[Rich Snyder]

Small milestone today. I glued up the last of the wing ribs. I stapled and then removed a little over 4000 of them little suckers. I think I'll build a landing gear next. I need a break from gluing wood.

What are you talking about? Everyone that I have talked with LOVED pulling staples.. For anyone starting this most enjoyable process; this is what I ended up using for a staple pulling tool. An old butcher knife. (Think Norman Bates shower scene). Keep the sharp edge away from you and grind the tip a bit to make it thin enough to get under the staples with a little wiggle. Once under the staple the nice comfortable handle is very easy to twist back and forth. Doesn't dig into the rib gussets. Rich

[Jlwright]

I used a pocket knife to pull the staples. It was already pretty much used up and the blade was only about 1-1/2 inches long. I ground the top edge down to make a double knife edge top and bottom. I then rounded the point a little in case I stabbed myself . I dulled the edges so they would not cut and went to town. It worked really well.

[plane_ben]

I used an old Craftsman screwdriver. Just rounded and sharpened the tip so I could wedge under the staple.

[DA Miller]

I didn't use staples. Used T-88 glue which doesn't require high clamping pressures. Fortunately, I had a quantity (50) of 1 1/2" X 1 1/2" X 1" steel plate blocks.  I placed one block on each gusset.  It seemed to work ok.