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Re: Clarification on using Latex paint on eagles...
« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2014, 12:30:59 PM »
I used latex gray primer with some aluminum powder mixed in o my DE with no bad effects.

I have noted that elsewhere around the net a white undercoat is advised if your top coat is to be yellow... I found I could not get a vivid yellow with Polytone over the silver Polyspray in the Stits process...

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Re: Clarification on using Latex paint on eagles...
« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2014, 12:42:07 PM »
I am trying to find out if anyone has used just latex without polyspray as an under coat.  Should I just use latex as a fill coat with aluminum powder on naked polymer/dacron fabric?

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Re: Clarification on using Latex paint on eagles...
« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2014, 01:46:36 PM »
I am trying to find out if anyone has used just latex without polyspray as an under coat.  Should I just use latex as a fill coat with aluminum powder on naked polymer/dacron fabric?

The latex pro that posts on the Forum is here: http://wienerdogaero.com/LatexProcess.php

I don't know if Malcolm answers private messages but you may find your answer just looking at  his site...

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Re: Clarification on using Latex paint on eagles...
« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2014, 03:15:46 PM »
Thanks Steve it does answer all my questions.

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Re: Clarification on using Latex paint on eagles...
« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2014, 06:08:22 PM »
Hi guys,
I do try to check the forum and emails often. I'm glad you found the website helpful. If I you have any other questions I would be happy to chat. BTW, I'm now experimenting with 3M FastBond latex contact cement. I'm told that it's the same thing as Stewarts EkoBond. It looks the same, smells the same, and acts the same at about half the price.

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Re: Clarification on using Latex paint on eagles...
« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2014, 06:24:38 PM »
Is it necessary to use a polybrush as a first coat or could the first coat be latex?
The first 2-3 coats can be thinned (water) latex white primer. It will bond tenaciously to the fabric and provide UV protection. See Malcom Morrison's notes, seminar, and web site for more info about priming. A foam brush will force the primer down into the weave of the fabric.

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Re: Clarification on using Latex paint on eagles...
« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2014, 05:31:26 PM »
I'm now experimenting with 3M FastBond latex contact cement. I'm told that it's the same thing as Stewarts EkoBond. It looks the same, smells the same, and acts the same at about half the price.


I was concerned about using the EkoBond over the Stitts EV-400 epoxy varnish that I used on the wing. So I emailed the people at Stewarts, and this is the reply that I received today:

Because our glue (EkoBond) is water based, it can be used with any of the other glues.
Because you are building a Legal Eagle, you can switch systems at any time.
Marjie

I'll be interested to know how your experiment with the 3M cement goes.

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Re: Clarification on using Latex paint on eagles...
« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2014, 07:39:36 AM »
I used Glidden Gripper primer under the yellow on my DE.  One cross coat brushed into the weave.  Then a sprayed coat with aluminum powder mixed in, then another coat to whiten it up.  Yellow doesn't seem to cover very good, especially over the green Stewart's glue.  The aluminum powder makes the base coats more opaque so that the glue doesn't show through, especially when there is strong light on the other side.  The yellow remained fairly translucent otherwise.  My fuse has no aluminum powder, but I used the linen colored glue on the fuse which covered better than the blue/green.  I would use that for the whole plane if I had it to do again.  I learned as I went and close examination will reveal various shades of yellow on different parts of the plane!  Oh well, good enough for me.

I used Sherwin Williams color paint thinned with windshield washer fluid to a consistency that my HVLP gun would handle.  I don't know if it's the paint or the thinning, but I have virtually no fuel resistance even with multiple coats of wax.  The paint turns to goo in short order.  I have to be really careful when fueling.  I'm looking at doing a top coat around the tanks of a clear water based epoxy.

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Re: Clarification on using Latex paint on eagles...
« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2014, 07:44:55 PM »
Which Sherwin Williams paint did you use? I used the high gloss stuff in the green cans and it holds up to fuel very well. There has to be something different.

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Re: Clarification on using Latex paint on eagles...
« Reply #24 on: October 30, 2014, 07:11:40 PM »
It's Resiliance exterior in the blue can.  Gloss yellow.

Rob

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Re: Clarification on using Latex paint on eagles...
« Reply #25 on: January 28, 2015, 03:14:07 PM »
I'm having significant trouble getting latex to cover ekofill.  And while I'm working on that I am working on a backup idea that may cheaper and better.

I see a few of you are mixing aluminum powder in your latex primer for undercoat.
I want to use an aluminum mixed latex primer as my undercoat or primer coat.

Where did you get your powder? And are there important spec or type to use?
How much did you mix per gallon?

Thanks for your help.

Johnny Robertson
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