How to post, how to add pics, how to add an attachment, and how to share a YouTube video...


Author Topic: 3 cylinder anyone?  (Read 54696 times)

Offline Steve

  • Steve Kiblinger
  • Staff
  • *
  • Posts: 698
  • Total likes: 135
  • Flying
  • OS:
  • Windows 7/Server 2008 R2 Windows 7/Server 2008 R2
  • Browser:
  • Firefox 41.0 Firefox 41.0
    • Legal Eagle serial #33
  • Eagle Type: Legal Eagle(LE)
Re: 3 cylinder anyone?
« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2015, 10:00:13 PM »
I sure like the robust sound & authority of the Verner e-start coupled with the the slow turning engine a package to get some real around the patch flying done...


Offline Nical

  • 2016 Donor
  • *
  • Posts: 24
  • Total likes: 2
  • OS:
  • Linux Linux
  • Browser:
  • Safari 4.0 Safari 4.0
  • Eagle Type: LX
Re: 3 cylinder anyone?
« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2015, 07:00:45 AM »
I sure hope Vernier decides to produce this engine. It would sure look good on the front of my LX.......
 Nick L.
Merely the vain choice between unsatisfied desire and the langour of ennui...
Schopenhauer

Offline Dan_

  • Staff
  • *
  • Posts: 1131
  • Total likes: 352
  • OS:
  • Windows 7/Server 2008 R2 Windows 7/Server 2008 R2
  • Browser:
  • Chrome 46.0.2490.64 Chrome 46.0.2490.64
  • Eagle Type: Legal Eagle
Re: 3 cylinder anyone?
« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2015, 12:14:14 PM »
I sure hope Vernier decides to produce this engine. It would sure look good on the front of my LX.......
 Nick L.

Nick,
Here is their contact form...  They invite any questions at all...

Maybe pump their US dealer below for the latest information on it..?  Let us know what you find out.

Or better yet, talk Frank Johnson into becoming a dealer so he can offer us all a discount on the prop/engine combo..




Richard Anton Johnson
12367 145th Ave
Menahga, MN  56464-3617
USA
Phone: +1 320 455 7363
E-mail: richardajohnson12367@gmail.com

We Are Looking for New Dealers. For more informations please contact us on info@vernermotor.com


If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they go...

Offline PropMan

  • 2019 Donor
  • *
  • Posts: 366
  • Total likes: 66
  • XL B2
  • OS:
  • Linux Linux
  • Browser:
  • Chrome 18.0.1025.308 Chrome 18.0.1025.308
    • Performance Propellers USA
  • Eagle Type: LE XL
Re: 3 cylinder anyone?
« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2015, 12:25:34 PM »
There goes Dan letting everyone know what I'm thinking.  ;-)

Or better yet, talk Frank Johnson into becoming a dealer so he can offer us all a discount on the prop/engine combo.. 




Richard Anton Johnson
12367 145th Ave
Menahga, MN  56464-3617
USA
Phone: +1 320 455 7363
E-mail: richardajohnson12367@gmail.com

We Are Looking for New Dealers. For more informations please contact us on info@vernermotor.com
Frank

Offline Dan_

  • Staff
  • *
  • Posts: 1131
  • Total likes: 352
  • OS:
  • Windows 7/Server 2008 R2 Windows 7/Server 2008 R2
  • Browser:
  • Chrome 46.0.2490.64 Chrome 46.0.2490.64
  • Eagle Type: Legal Eagle
Re: 3 cylinder anyone?
« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2015, 02:33:09 PM »
There goes Dan letting everyone know what I'm thinking.  ;-)


That would be some seriously good news..!

I notice the prop hub has drive pins in their drawing...  I like drive pin prop hubs.

I also noticed they have had that engine on a real dynomometer.

 I took the liberty to convert their numbers to inches...  Attached.


If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they go...

Offline scottiniowa

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 497
  • Total likes: 99
  • Scott-In-Iowa
  • OS:
  • Windows 7/Server 2008 R2 Windows 7/Server 2008 R2
  • Browser:
  • Chrome 46.0.2490.71 Chrome 46.0.2490.71
    • Display of helpful hits and tricks
  • Eagle Type: Legal E- XL
Re: 3 cylinder anyone?
« Reply #20 on: October 18, 2015, 08:22:04 PM »
Isn't the Verner, that same company that that has offered an  engine somewhere between forever and a long time ago? 2 cylinder, opposed (boxer) Yet to see one working/flying on a aircraft at OSH-  I have always marveled at companies selling a dream, but hardly a working product. I hope I have that company confused with this one..and the two are totally unrelated.
best email address:  irondesignairparts@gmail.com

Offline Kevin N.

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 21
  • Total likes: 3
  • Drifter/Derelict
  • OS:
  • Unknown Unknown
  • Browser:
  • Chrome 45.0.2454.98 Chrome 45.0.2454.98
  • Eagle Type: XL
Re: 3 cylinder anyone?
« Reply #21 on: October 18, 2015, 10:27:15 PM »
No thanks, I already own a paint shaker.
XL

Offline PropMan

  • 2019 Donor
  • *
  • Posts: 366
  • Total likes: 66
  • XL B2
  • OS:
  • Windows NT 6.3 Windows NT 6.3
  • Browser:
  • Chrome 46.0.2490.80 Chrome 46.0.2490.80
    • Performance Propellers USA
  • Eagle Type: LE XL
Re: 3 cylinder anyone?
« Reply #22 on: November 03, 2015, 02:44:02 PM »
Just ordered my Scarlett 3VW. Anyone else want one I'll be happy to help.:emoji_u1f60e:
Frank

Offline Nical

  • 2016 Donor
  • *
  • Posts: 24
  • Total likes: 2
  • OS:
  • Linux Linux
  • Browser:
  • Safari 4.0 Safari 4.0
  • Eagle Type: LX
Re: 3 cylinder anyone?
« Reply #23 on: November 03, 2015, 03:28:40 PM »
Just ordered my Scarlett 3VW. Anyone else want one I'll be happy to help.:emoji_u1f60e:



So there will be two of us in TX flying LX  radials in 2016 .  A good start! 
  Wotta class act!

  Nick L
Merely the vain choice between unsatisfied desire and the langour of ennui...
Schopenhauer

Offline Bob S.

  • 2016 Donor
  • *
  • Posts: 343
  • Total likes: 17
  • ! FLYING !
  • OS:
  • Windows XP Windows XP
  • Browser:
  • Chrome 46.0.2490.80 Chrome 46.0.2490.80
  • Eagle Type: LE #64H
Re: 3 cylinder anyone?
« Reply #24 on: November 04, 2015, 07:58:11 AM »
Wonder how heavy just the HEADS are and wether they would work on our 1/2 VW's since they are using VW cylinders....
Bob Severance
LE Plans #64H
E038RS

Offline Bugsmasher

  • 2014 Donor
  • *
  • Posts: 58
  • Total likes: 2
  • Smashin' bugs southern style
  • OS:
  • Windows NT 10.0 Windows NT 10.0
  • Browser:
  • Chrome 42.0.2311.135 Chrome 42.0.2311.135
Re: 3 cylinder anyone?
« Reply #25 on: November 05, 2015, 05:09:59 PM »
Seeing as this is a new engine....any squawks from testing/flying revealed? Am nearing completion of the 45 half vdub......hate temptations for another airplane to build. Only have one wife and room for one plane. I do like the big slow prop....may be a good thing to have on the nose. Sure sounds nice. Maybe Scott could cobble up a smaller , lighter 4 cylinder from scratch with a reduction setup. Pondered this for years...but would die of old age before I got far with it and testing...inspiration pic...would be 1200cc 4 cyl 4 stroke with overhead valves rather than 2 stroke. 80 lds and carry a 68 inch club.
They ask me what it's made of.....I tell them bed sheets and broomsticks seem to fly best....

Offline Dan_

  • Staff
  • *
  • Posts: 1131
  • Total likes: 352
  • OS:
  • Windows 7/Server 2008 R2 Windows 7/Server 2008 R2
  • Browser:
  • Chrome 47.0.2526.35 Chrome 47.0.2526.35
  • Eagle Type: Legal Eagle
Re: 3 cylinder anyone?
« Reply #26 on: November 06, 2015, 10:08:39 AM »
Wonder how heavy just the HEADS are and wether they would work on our 1/2 VW's since they are using VW cylinders....

I sent Verner an email and got a reply...

Quote
... Yes, the cylinders used on Scarlett 3VW are original VW cylinders. We know, that nicasil coated aluminum cylinders can save some weight, but we sacrifice this weight saving for durability which we get from original cylinders. And of course there is a price reason.
 
We use cast alluminium cylinders with cast-iron insert for our 5 and 7 cylinders. They are different to 3VW engine.
 
The cylinder head which we use weight about 2 kg for complete cylinder head (including rockers, valves etc). And about 1/2 VW, well I don’t think so, because of pushrods , oil system etc.
 
regards,
 
Paul Dvorak
Verner Motor
info@vernermotor.com
www.vernermotor.com


If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they go...

Offline GriffWatkins

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 8
  • Total likes: 0
  • OS:
  • Linux (Ubuntu) Linux (Ubuntu)
  • Browser:
  • Firefox 41.0 Firefox 41.0
  • Eagle Type: XL-29
Re: 3 cylinder anyone?
« Reply #27 on: November 10, 2015, 04:44:43 AM »
Just ordered my Scarlett 3VW. Anyone else want one I'll be happy to help.:emoji_u1f60e:
Would you mind giving us a hint at the price and lead time?

Offline PropMan

  • 2019 Donor
  • *
  • Posts: 366
  • Total likes: 66
  • XL B2
  • OS:
  • Linux Linux
  • Browser:
  • Chrome 18.0.1025.308 Chrome 18.0.1025.308
    • Performance Propellers USA
  • Eagle Type: LE XL
Re: 3 cylinder anyone?
« Reply #28 on: November 11, 2015, 07:57:00 AM »

Would you mind giving us a hint at the price and lead time?
Price for the engine w/o starter is 5500.00, with starter is 6100.00. This includes import broker fees and shipping to the US. Price may vary with the euro exchange rate.  Delivery is around 4 weeks from receipt of funds, at this time.
Frank

Offline GriffWatkins

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 8
  • Total likes: 0
  • OS:
  • Linux (Ubuntu) Linux (Ubuntu)
  • Browser:
  • Firefox 41.0 Firefox 41.0
  • Eagle Type: XL-29
Re: 3 cylinder anyone?
« Reply #29 on: November 11, 2015, 11:45:45 AM »

Would you mind giving us a hint at the price and lead time?


Price for the engine w/o starter is 5500.00, with starter is 6100.00. This includes import broker fees and shipping to the US. Price may vary with the euro exchange rate.  Delivery is around 4 weeks from receipt of funds, at this time.

Frank,
Thanks for the response.  If the engine proves to be reliable and durable, that's a pretty good price- especially considering the weight (and time!) savings compared to some of the ready-made 1/2 VWs.  Please keep us all informed about how it works out on your Eagle.

 

EaglersNest Mission Statement:
To maintain the comprehensive searchable database resource for Builders and Fliers of Leonard Milholland ultralight airplane designs aka Legal Eagle Ultralights.

BetterHalfVW.com  becomes LegalEagleAirplane.com - stay in contact with Leonard and get plans for all the Milholland Designs at LegalEagleAirplane.com
SimplePortal 2.3.7 © 2008-2024, SimplePortal