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Engine Baffling on DE - cooling
« on: February 23, 2015, 08:10:32 PM »
do we need to baffling on the De to keep engine parts kool 
any photos would be good
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Re: Engine Baffling on DE - cooling
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2015, 05:59:06 AM »
Not exactly sure of what all you are asking, but here is what I did on DE Stubby.  Notice in the scoop that there is a divider wall between the head and the cylinders.  My theory on this is that the air that goes in the cylinder section has to go down and out past the cylinder fins, and the air that goes in the head section has to go down and out through the head cooling fins.  I'm thinking that without this divider wall that the air would try to bypass the head fins and go out through the cylinder fins, which is a much more open and an easier path for the air to take.  I don't know if all this is strictly true, but it works on Stubby.

Hope this answers some of what you are asking.
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Re: Engine Baffling on DE - cooling
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2015, 11:22:56 AM »
well that did it for me - i thought i was in for some work 
was that small oil cooler down front bottom your only  cooling for the oil? 
Thanks Tom awesome help
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Re: Engine Baffling on DE - cooling
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2015, 11:10:21 PM »
Tom, A bit curious what you done on left side if you had any more and a top veiw 
ill take what i can get if you have a few you can email ( upsidedownwebsites@gmail.com )
would be good in forum thou 
like where you put the oil cooler did you every have issues with the alloy pipes ?
Awesome Thanks
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Re: Engine Baffling on DE - cooling
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2015, 05:56:27 AM »
Mr G, I combed my pictures and found a few more that may show what I did a bit better.  I don't have any pics of the details of the cooling baffles.  The left and right sides are similar, but are each custom fit to the engine.  I used galvanized sheet metal (steel).  I believe it is the stuff used for roof flashing.  Could have used alum sheet, I suppose.  Also, it could probably be refined a bit for better looks.

I tried to get good fit between the baffle parts and the engine, and sealed some areas with black RTV.  I don't want any air sneaking out of the top area.

The oil cooler is from Great Plains and came with the engine kit accessories.  I don't know if I had to choose it or if it was just part of the package.

It is rigidly mounted below and in the front.  I was wary about using hard alum tubing, but nothing is free to move, and so far all is good.  I check all connections, etc. every pre-flight.  The engine side of the tubing connects to a plate that I made that covers the two ports that normally go to the cooling tower. 

There is actually too much cooling capacity.  In the summer, with a fully open cooler, the oil temp barely reaches 160 degF.  I have been carefully covering more of the cooler and ended up with the whole front being covered, maybe reaching 185 degF.  The last time I flew it, air temps were 35-40 degF, and I covered the cooler front and half of the back, and still got only 185 or so.  I'm being cautious because I am aware that the oil temp gauge could be off (I did test it with boiling water before installation, so it is probably OK).  Another indicator of rather cool oil is that the engine is almost touchable after landing.

I'll attach pics on this and following post.

Hope this helps some.
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Re: Engine Baffling on DE - cooling
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2015, 06:35:34 AM »
Pics 2 & 3 of 3
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Re: Engine Baffling on DE - cooling
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2015, 12:51:31 PM »
Im impressed, baffling is a lot of work - i did a IO-540 from scratch and know what's involved, i actually got a bigger oil cooler but looks like 
i may swap it for a smaller one,    Also answered a few other Q's i was going to ask 
Thanks Tom
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